Student Success & Normalizing Failure with Dr. John Bader

Learning Outcomes Leaders Podcast | Ep 006
Clock 1 min read Calendar Published: 13 May 2026
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 Welcome to episode 006 of Learning Outcomes Leaders, the higher education podcast from Genio.


College success should be measured by how much students learn and grow, not just by their grades.

In this episode, Dr. John Bader, author of Dean's List: Eleven Habits of Highly Successful College Students and a former Dean at Johns Hopkins University, explains why colleges should normalize failure, how students and parents can manage the transition into higher education together, and how institutions can support student success  in a way that's financially sustainable. 

What will you learn from this episode?

  • Why should colleges measure student success by learning, not grades?

  • How can colleges normalize failure and still spot when a student needs real help?

  • How can students and parents manage the transition into higher education together?

  • What questions help parents talk to students about struggling?

  • Why don't a student's major and career need to match?

  • Why isn't hiring more support staff a sustainable path to student success?

  • How could colleges rethink the four-year degree, from smaller majors to apprenticeships?

Listen to the full conversation below, or on your favorite podcast app.

 

Quick answers from the episode

Why should colleges normalize failure?

Colleges should normalize failures because students learn more from failure than from success. John points to engineers, who are taught to ask why something didn't work rather than treat failure as personal. He separates everyday failure from "real failure" caused by financial hardship or mental health, where colleges need to normalize asking for help.

How can parents support college students without taking over?

Parents can support students by providing a gentle transition, built on kindness and learning on both sides. In his Parent's Guide to Student Success, John suggests indirect questions, such as asking whether any of their friends are struggling academically. The student can choose whether to open up, and struggle starts to feel normal.

How can colleges make student success sustainable?

Colleges can make student success sustainable by defining success carefully and setting priorities. John notes that tripling the number of counselors triples the budget, and tuition can't keep covering that. He argues institutions need to rethink the model itself, for example by shrinking the major and pairing internships with practical, apprenticeship-style skills.


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